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emman
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#1 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 11:07
Skulle vi inte kunna ha den här tråden för bara Fischerfans, o lägga in intressanta saker om "den störste" länkar till partier, mm. Bra om det finns svenska sidor att lägga in också. Intresse??
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kolsäcken
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#2 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 11:21
http://www.nvssf.com/hask/partier/mästarpartier/matulovic-fischer%201968.html. Låter som ett bra förslag, här har du första länken till ett parti 1968 mellan Matulovic-Fischer, där Fischer visar upp sin kreativa förmåga på bästa sätt
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zohar
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#3 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 12:06
Robert James 'Bobby' Fischer är schackhistoriens värsting, även om vissa skulle sätta Kamsky på första plats. Fischer föddes 1944 i Chicago (även om han själv påstått i en intervju att han är indian från Mexico). Han växte upp i Brooklyns judiska kvarter i New York, och vann Amerikanska Schackmästerskapen redan som 14-åring.
Som schackspelare var han geniförklarad, som människa rena katastrofen. Han vann det mesta på 60-talet, men blev med tiden känd som en märklig bråkstake, som krävde en massa absurda saker inför varje match. Han försvann från offentligheten efter 1972, men återkom 20 år senare i ett parti mot Spassky i Belgrad, dit han över huvud taget inte fick resa eftersom USA infört sanktioner mot Jugoslavien på grund av kriget i Bosnien.
Ett tioårigt fängelsestraff hotar nu Fischer om han återvände till USA. Efter den 11 september 2001 dök han upp i en filippinsk radiointervju, där han hyllade terrorattentaten i USA. "USA kan dra åt helvete", förklarade Fischer. Som skitstövel är han alltså lika oslagbar som han en gång var i schack.
Man får väl här försöka skilja på sak och person, och vi kan väl beundra hans spel utan att för den skull behöva gilla honom som människa. Ett ganska beklämmande intresse för Fischer finns i vissa neuropsykiatriska vetenskapskretsar, där man försökt ge honom en medicinsk diagnos, såsom Aspergers syndrom eller autism. Hans geni i schack kombinerat med social analfabetism skulle tydligen vara ett symptom på detta. Typiskt läkare att visa upp sådan cynism! Hur som helst lär han tyvärr nog inte återkomma till schackspelets stora arenor, för han är extremt folkskygg och visar upp djupt paranoida drag.
Fischers spel var mycket utstuderat och genomtänkt, speciellt hans offensiva öppningar. Han var rejält aggressiv efter 10 drag. Som vit öppnade han gärna med e4, och han ansåg Kungsgambit vara den bästa öppningsvarianten. Som svart var han mer varierad, men favoriserade Kungsindiskt eller Najdorf’s.
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emman
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#4 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 12:20
Intressant Zohar, ja om man bortser från hans "floskeluttal" som Anrell skulle ha sagt, jag tror det var för att provocera bara, han va sån bara. Inte konstigt heller att han har paranoida drag, när USA förföljer honom, vem skulle inte ha det/emman
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zohar
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#5 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 12:42
Hahaha.... ja, om saken hade varit så enkel ändå, Emman. Men det ligger kanske en del i det du säger. Fischer är ju harmlös, om man kan ha överseende med hans sjuka åsikter. Tyvärr är det ju så, att många inte accepterar sin idol när de visar upp ett clownansikte de inte trodde fanns. Som när nu Michael Jackson plötsligt blir en "dålig artist", eller när en av förra seklets största författare Lawrence Durrell blev "en dålig författare" när det uppdagades att han haft ett förhållande med sin syster. Man kan gilla deras musik, spel och deras böcker, utan att för den skull behöva bry sig om deras liv i övrigt.
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Pepperpum
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#6 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 12:46
För att kasta in en brandfackla:
Vad är det som gör en person till skitstövel bara för att han sympatiserar med de som väljer USA som terrormål och ber det sagda landet att dra åt helvete?
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theddan
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#7 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 12:54
Exakt, bara för att man inte "fogar" sig i ledet, behöver man inte va en dålig människa
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zohar
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#8 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 13:05
Ja du, Pepperpum.... om man sympatiserar med terror är man faktiskt en skitstövel. Fischer har också sagt att det vore bra om man brände ner alla synagogor i världen. Respekten för liv måste väl vara A o O, oavsett politisk ståndpunkt?
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#9 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 13:09
Självklart är det a och o. Det jag menar är bara att det inte spelar så stor roll om man sympatiserar med terrorister från Afghanistan, Saudi-arabien eller USA.
Säga vad man vill, men nog har väl ändå USA gjort sig skyldiga till en hel del grova övergrepp?
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#10 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 13:11
Jag tror inte Fischer mena allvar med det, men de e klart att han son offentlig person ska inte säga sånt. Föresten är det inte judarna som styr i USA, dom har ju alla höga positioner där. Hade Fischer inte judiskt påbrå?
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zohar
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#11 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 13:14
En hemsk åsikt blir ju inte legitim bara för att det råkar finnas ännu värre åsikter. Fischer är inte ursäktad bara för att USA är en skurkstat. Därför ser jag hellre till hans briljanta spel, än till hans idéer. Han kan ju inte dra politiska drag på brädet!
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Pepperpum
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#12 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 13:18
Iof tycker jag att var och en har rätt till en privat åsikt, men som sagt. Man ska nog överväga att hålla dem för sig själv om de är kontroversiella.
Apropå politiska drag på brädet...
Kan nästan föreställa mig hur en medeltida riddare offrar sina bönder utan att blinka, för att i nästa stund offra tom kungen för att försvara damen...
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emman
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#13 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 13:32
Typiskt killar att bara snacka politik å åsikter hit o dit, var lite positiva nu o plcka fram några intressanta länkar (schacklänkar) om fischer, gärna svenska om det finns. I schackklubbarn på nätet har jag sett att det finns, jag menar nu inte bara för min egen del, utan det kan ju finnas ett allmänintresse för fischer o hans partier här på SO. Inte minst om han flyttar till Island o deltar i NM
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zohar
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#14 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 13:45
Helt rätt emman... ska genast börja leta länkar. Måste bara få skoja lite med Kielborglund (inlägg 9): Att judarna skulle styra USA är väl ändå en löjlig floskel, även om Fischer säkert är en av dem som flåsar ut denna åsikt över världen. Då skulle de ju på samma vis kontrollera allt ert schackspelande bara för att många stjärnspelare är judar, såsom Lasker, Kasparov, Polgar, Fine, Fischer, Kamsky, Nimzowitsch, Rubinstein och Tal. Tänk, de styr era drag... hjälp!
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emman
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#15 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 13:54
Bra, tack Zohar, iaf nån vettig här på SO, (skämta bara) Men jag har också hört att judarna har stor makt i USA, finanser bl.a. O Israel är väl USA:s gunstling vad jag har sett i Palestinaproblemet iaf. Har Fischer Judiskt påbrå, lr?
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zohar
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#16 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 14:01
Ja, det skrev jag ju ovan. Men det har ju ingen betydelse. Vi kan väl skippa ämnet? Här är några kul länkar till Fischer, med allt från spel till politiska kullerbyttor:
http://www.chesscorner.com/worldchamps/fischer/fischer.htm
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/prem/200212/chun
http://bobbyfischer.net/phpBB2/index.php
http://www.chess-poster.com/great_players/fischer.htm
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zohar
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#17 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 14:09
Vill ni höra Fischers röst? Här finns några riktigt skruvade intervjuer med honom:
http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/specials/fischer/index.html
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emman
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#18 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 14:26
http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/specials/fischer/index.html Tack Zohar, när jag nu sitter o lyssnar på intervjun så tycker jag väldigt synd om honom, men det kanske är för att jag är tjej o mer känslig än er killar, (vågar visa dom) Han sitter i fängelse o är äldst bland 500 fångar, han vill åka till Island, det är bra, men han har ju inget pass, ja ni får lyssna själva, jag tycker iaf inget av det han säger låter sjukt/emman
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ChessComand
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#19 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 15:55
Okej...Så vill ngn starta ett nytt ämne?
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emman
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#20 Skrivet: 20 Mar 2005 16:08
Det får du /ni göra på en annan sida, den här tråden ska vara för Fischer/emman
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Larsa
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#21 Skrivet: 21 Mar 2005 15:17
Och på den här länken kan man höra när Fischer sjunger i kör.
Skruva upp volymen och klicka på sångarna så kommer ljudet.
http://svt.se/hogafflahage/hogafflaHage_site/Kor/hestekor.html
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Captain Nemo
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#22 Skrivet: 21 Mar 2005 16:13
Jag läste att Bobby F blir islänsk medborgare nu enl www.shackforum.se !
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smarter
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#23 Skrivet: 22 Mar 2005 20:16
Citat av Fischer
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Chess is life. -- Bobby Fischer
All I want to do, ever, is just play chess. -- Bobby Fischer
I don't believe in psychology. I believe in good moves. -- Bobby Fischer
All that matters on the chessboard is good moves. -- Bobby Fischer
You can only get good at chess if you love the game. -- Bobby Fischer
Chess demands total concentration and a love for the game. -- Bobby Fischer
I give 98 percent of my mental energy to chess. Others give only 2 percent. -- Bobby Fischer
Your body has to be in top condition. Your chess deteriorates as your body does. You can't separate body from mind. -- Bobby Fischer
I prepare myself well. I know what I can do before I go in. I'm always confident. -- Bobby Fischer
Psychologically, you have to have confidence in yourself and this confidence should be based on fact. -- Bobby Fischer
People have been playing against me below their strength for fifteen years. -- Bobby Fischer
It’s just you and your opponent at the board and you're trying to prove something. -- Bobby Fischer
Chess is war over the board. The object is to crush the opponent's mind. -- Bobby Fischer
Chess is like war on a board. -- Bobby Fischer
I play honestly and I play to win. If I lose, I take my medicine. -- Bobby Fischer
You have to have the fighting spirit. You have to force moves and take chances. -- Bobby Fischer
That's what chess is all about. One day you give your opponent a lesson, the next day he gives you one. -- Bobby Fischer
I like to make them squirm. -- Bobby Fischer
I like the moment when I break a man's ego. -- Bobby Fischer
There are tough players and nice guys, and I'm a tough player. -- Bobby Fischer
I am the best player in the world and I am here to prove it. -- Bobby Fischer
You know, I can beat all those guys. -- Bobby Fischer
There's no one alive I can't beat. -- Bobby Fischer
Let's play. I'm willing to play anywhere. -- Bobby Fischer
I add status to any tournament I attend. -- Bobby Fischer
Genius. It’s a word. What does it really mean? If I win I'm a genius. If I don't, I'm not. -- Bobby Fischer
Patzer sees check, Patzer makes check. -- Bobby Fischer
When I was eleven, I just got good. -- Bobby Fischer
The turning point in my career came with the realization that Black should play to win instead of just steering for equality. -- Bobby Fischer
If I win a tournament, I win it by myself. I do the playing. Nobody helps me. -- Bobby Fischer
If you don't win, it’s not a great tragedy - the worst that happens is that you lose a game. -- Bobby Fischer
Don't even mention losing to me. I can't stand to think of it. -- Bobby Fischer
Chess is a matter of delicate judgment, knowing when to punch and how to duck. -- Bobby Fischer
A strong memory, concentration, imagination, and a strong will. -- Bobby Fischer (on what it took to become a strong chess player)
I know people who have all the will in the world, but still can't play good chess. -- Bobby Fischer
I really love the dark of the night. It helps me to concentrate. -- Bobby Fischer
It’s pretty tough because of all the tension and all the concentration, sitting there hour after hour. It’s...exhausting. -- Bobby Fischer
It’s like taking a five hour final examination. -- Bobby Fischer
Different people feel differently about resigning. -- Bobby Fischer
It doesn't pay to be petty like they are. -- Bobby Fischer
They've almost ruined chess. -- Bobby Fischer
The Russians have fixed world chess. -- Bobby Fischer
You know I'm finished with the old chess because it's all just a lot of book and memorization you know. -- Bobby Fischer
The old chess is too limited. Imagine playing cards, black jack for example, and every time the dealer has the same starting hand you have the same starting hand. What's the point? -- Bobby Fischer
I have nothing to do with politics. I came here (Yugoslavia) to play chess and nothing else. -- Bobby Fischer
I despise the media. -- Bobby Fischer
Is it against the law to kill a reporter? -- Bobby Fischer
They like to write only bad things about me. -- Bobby Fischer
I'm not as soft or as generous a person as I would be if the world hadn't changed me. -- Bobby Fischer
I think it's almost definite that the game is a draw theoretically. -- Bobby Fischer
Tactics flow from a superior position. -- Bobby Fischer
Best by test. -- Bobby Fischer (on 1.e4)
I wanted to give them something to think about when they prepare for me in future tournaments. -- Bobby Fischer (on why he played 1.d4, 1.c4 & 1.Nf3 a few times)
It's just a matter of throwing in a few sacrifices, then checkmate! -- Bobby Fischer (on playing against the Sicilian Dragon)
For the first lesson, I want you to play over every column of Modern Chess Openings, including the footnotes. And for the next lesson, I want you to do it again. -- Bobby Fischer (advice to his biographer, Frank Brady, who had asked for chess lessons)
Concentrate on material gains. Whatever your opponent gives you take, unless you see a good reason not to. -- Bobby Fischer
My opponents make good moves too. Sometimes I don't take these things into consideration. -- Bobby Fischer
As Olafsson showed me, White can win... It's hard to believe. I stayed up all night analyzing, finally convincing myself, and, incidentally, learning a lot about Rook and Pawn endings in the process. -- Bobby Fischer
I don't like American girls. They're very conceited, you know. In Europe they're more pleasant. -- Bobby Fischer
Sometimes girls write me. One girl in Yugoslavia sent me a whole slew of love letters. I don't know how she got my address. She was in a crowd watching me play. She says when I left there the stars fell out of the sky over Yugoslavia, or something like that. -- Bobby Fischer
I don't keep any close friends. I don't keep any secrets. I don't need friends. I just tell everybody everything, that's all. -- Bobby Fischer
I'd like to travel around, be an international playboy. They have all that money; they could really do it right. Look at (Errol) Flynn. -- Bobby Fischer
You're a good guy. I like you. Twenty thousand will do it. -- Bobby Fischer (to a Dutch chess promoter)
Yeah, I used to dress badly until I was about sixteen. But people just didn't seem to have enough respect for me, you know And I didn't like that, so I decided I'd have to show them they weren't any better than me, you know? They were sort of priding themselves. They would say, 'He beat us at chess, but he's still just an uncouth kid.' So I decided to dress up. -- Bobby Fischer
Yeah, there are too many Jews in chess. They seem to have taken away the class of the game. They don't seem to dress so nicely, you know. That's what I don't like. -- Bobby Fischer
Well, I'm not sure I know what you mean by a prima donna, but if something doesn't interest me or if someone bores me, or if I think they're a phony, I just don't bother with them, that's all. -- Bobby Fischer
I don't think so. I don't like to see millionaires in there. He has it too soft, you know. I don't think he's ever had any hardships. Besides, he doesn't have any class. He puts his hands in his coat pockets. God, that's horrible! -- Bobby Fischer (on whether he would vote for John Kennedy)
You don't learn anything in school. It's just a waste of time. You lug around books and all and do homework. They give too much homework. You shouldn't be doing homework. Nobody's interested in it. The teachers are stupid. They shouldn't have any women in there. They don't know how to teach. And they shouldn't make anyone go to school. You don't want to go, you don't go, that's all. It's ridiculous. I don't remember one thing I learned in school. I don't listen to weakies. My two and a half years in Erasmus High I wasted. I didn't like the whole thing. You have to mix with all those stupid kids. The teachers are even stupider than the kids. They talk down to the kids. Half of them are crazy. If they'd have let me, I would have quit before I was sixteen. -- Bobby Fischer
Lots of the time I'm traveling around. Europe, South America, Iceland. But when I'm home, I don't know, I don't do much. I get up at eleven o'clock maybe. I'll get dressed and all, look at some chess books, go downstairs and eat. I never cook my own meals. I don't believe in that stuff. I don't eat in luncheonettes or Automats either. I like a waiter to wait on me. Good restaurants. After I eat I usually call up some of my chess friends, go over and analyze a game or something. Maybe I'll go to a chess club. Then maybe I'll see a movie or something. There's really nothing for me to do. Maybe I'll study some chess book. -- Bobby Fischer
She and I just don't see eye to eye together. She's a square. She keeps telling me that I'm too interested in chess, that I should get friends out- side of chess, you can't make a living from chess, that I should finish high school and all that nonsense. She keeps in my hair and I don't like people in my hair, you know, so I had to get rid of her. -- Bobby Fischer (speaking about his mother)
My sister bought me a set at a candy store and taught me the moves. -- Bobby Fischer
Reshevsky and I are the only ones in America who try (to earn a living from chess). We don't make much. The other masters have outside jobs. Like Rossolimo, he drives a cab. Evans, he works for the movies. The Russians, they get money from the government. We have to depend on tournament prizes. And they're lousy. Maybe a couple hundred bucks. Millionaires back this game, but they're all cheap. Look what they do for golf: thirty thousand dollars for a tournament is nothing. But for chess they give a thousand or two and they think it's a big deal. The tournament has to be named after them, everybody has to bow down to them, play when they want, everything for a couple thousand dollars which is nothing to them anyhow. They take it off their income tax. These people are cheap. It's ridiculous. -- Bobby Fischer
It's the fault of the chess players themselves. I don't know what they used to be, but now they're not the most gentlemanly group. When it was a game played by the aristocrats it had more like you know dignity to it. When they used to have the clubs, like no women were allowed and everybody went in dressed in a suit, a tie, like gentlemen, you know. Now, kids come running in their sneakers. Even in the best chess club-and they got women in there. It's a social place and people are making noise, it's a madhouse. -- Bobby Fischer (on the lack of financial support for chess)
I don't care! I don't have to show anybody my games just because they're a big shot! -- Bobby Fischer
All my games are real. -- Bobby Fischer
There was open collusion between the Russian players. They agreed ahead of time to draw the games they played against each other. Every time they drew they gave each other half a point. -- Bobby Fischer
The Russians have held my title for ten years and they're going to be in for it when I win the Championship. They're going to have to wait and play under my conditions. -- Bobby Fischer
They have nothing on me, those guys. They can't even touch me. Some people rate them better than me. That really bugs me. They think that no Americans play chess. When I meet those Russian Patzer I'll put them in their place. -- Bobby Fischer
I usually never stay at the board after a game. Especially against Spassky. I made a dumb suggestion and he refuted it instantly! I know I'm going to have to play him some day and it was really stupid to look like such a jerk in front of him. -- Bobby Fischer (on a '66 post mortem)
I haven't had any congratulations from Spassky yet. I think I'll send him a telegram. Congratulations on winning the right to meet me for the championship. -- Bobby Fischer (after defeating Petrosian in the '71 Candidates Final)
I'm not afraid of Spassky. The world knows I'm the best. You don't need a match to prove it. -- Bobby Fischer (just prior to their '72 match)
Americans like a winner. If you lose, you're nothing. I'm going to win, though. It's good for the match that Spassky has a plus score against me. We've met five times. He's won three times and we've drawn twice. But I'm a stronger player and a long match favors me. -- Bobby Fischer
First of all, I'll make a tour of the whole world, giving exhibitions. I'll charge unprecedented prices. I'll set new standards. I'll make them pay thousands. Then I'll come home on a luxury liner. First-class. I'll have a tuxedo made for me in England to wear to dinner. When I come home I'll write a couple chess books and start to reorganize the whole game. I'll have my own club. The Bobby Fischer ... uh, the Robert J. Fischer Chess Club. It'll be class. Tournaments in full dress. No bums in there. You're gonna have to be over eighteen to get in, unless like you have special permission because you have like special talent. It'll be in a part of the city that's still decent, like the Upper East Side. And I'll hold big international tournaments in my club with big cash prizes. And I'm going to kick all the millionaires out of chess unless they kick in more money. Then I'll buy a car so I don't have to take the subway any more. That subway makes me sick. It'll be a Mercedes-Benz. Better, a Rolls Royce, one of those fifty-thousand-dollar custom jobs, made to my own measure. Maybe I'll buy one of those jets they advertise for businessmen. And a yacht. Flynn had a yacht. Then I'll have some more suits made. I'd like to be one of the Ten Best-dressed Men. That would really be something. I read that Duke Snyder made the list. Then I'll build me a house. I don't know where but it won't be in Greenwich Village. They're all dirty, filthy animals down there. Maybe I'll build it in Hong Kong. Everybody who's been there says it's great. Art Linkletter said so on the radio. And they've got suits there, beauties, for only twenty dollars. Or maybe I'll build it in Beverly Hills. The people there are sort of square, but like the climate is nice and it's close to Vegas, Mexico, Hawaii, and those places. I got strong ideas about my house. I'm going to hire the best architect and have him build it in the shape of a rook. Yeah, that's for me. Class. Spiral staircases, parapets, everything. I want to live the rest of my life in a house built exactly like a rook. -- Bobby Fischer (on what he'd do when he won the world championship)
When I win, I'll put my title on the line every year, maybe even twice. I'll give players a chance to beat me. -- Bobby Fischer
I'll play a lot, stake matches. Not like the Russians. They win the championship and then hide for three years. Every few months, anyway twice a year, I'd like to get up a purse and meet a challenger. It's good for the game, keeps up interest in chess, and it's good for the bank account. I want to get some money together. Like take professional football. All these athletes making hundreds of thousands of dollars. Contracts, endorsements. If there's room for all of them, there ought to be room for one of me. I mean, after all, I'm a great goodwill ambassador for the United States! Besides, I want money so I can tell some people I don't like to go ... yeah. -- Bobby Fischer (on what he'd do when he won the world championship)
Well, you know, in America everybody is interested in making the dollar fast. In Yugoslavia no matter how much you hustle you're not going to get rich, so you might as well play chess. -- Bobby Fischer
I object to being called a chess genius, because I consider myself to be an all around genius, who just happens to play chess, which is rather different. A piece of garbage like Kasparov might be called a chess genius, but he is like an idiot savant, outside of chess he knows nothing. -- Bobby Fischer
Karpov, Kasparov, Korchnoi have absolutely destroyed chess by their immoral, unethical, prearranged games. These guys are really the lowest dogs around. -- Bobby Fischer
Maybe I should publish the book. The world is coming to an end anyway! -- Bobby Fischer (on My 60 Memorable Games)
I don't need them to correct anything for me, even with the help of computers. Of course the book has mistakes, but I can correct them myself. They changed my things on purpose. -- Bobby Fischer (on changes made to the new edition of My 60 Memorable Games)
Most people are sheep, and they need the support of others. -- Bobby Fischer
I read a book lately by Nietzsche and he says religion is just to dull the senses of the people. I agree. -- Bobby Fischer
I had some personal problems, and I started listening to a lot of radio ministers. I listened every Sunday all day, flipping the dial up and back. So, I heard just about every guy on Sunday. And then I heard Mr. Armstrong, and I said, "Ah, God has finally shown me the one, I guess. -- Bobby Fischer
Well, I kind of split my life into two pieces. One was where my chess career lies. There, I kept my sanity, so to speak, and my logic. And the other was my religious life. I tried to apply what I learned in the church to my chess career too. But I still was studying chess. I wasn't just "trusting in God" to give me the moves. -- Bobby Fischer (on his involvement with a religious cult)
I know the Bible says, "Vengeance is God's." I'm not trying to "get" those guys. And I'm not interested in getting my money back. I'm trying to protect others. I just want to make sure that nobody gets ripped off mentally. -- Bobby Fischer (on the Worldwide Church of God)
You know, I didn't improve my living standard one bit either. It wasn't like I just didn't help my mom. I didn't do anything for myself either. You know I don't even have a car. About the only luxury I got was quite a few $400 suits. I got ten maybe. But still what I'm saying is that that is still not a lot of money spent on me considering all the money I made. It wasn't like I was living high on the hog and neglecting my mom, but she's living real poor in a crummy apartment in England. She doesn't even have a bathroom. I just saw her a few months ago. I have to help my mom now. She's an old woman. She could soon be gone and here I was giving money so that Rader and these guys can have their parties in Beverly Hills. This whole thing is so sick. -- Bobby Fischer
They cleaned my pockets out frankly. I have some money left, but not that much. I've got some assets. It's amazing they didn't get everything. Now my only income is a few royalty checks from my books. I was really very foolish, but I thought I was doing what I had to do. When I sent those checks off, I really didn't have the slightest qualms, no regrets, not the slightest. I don't really regret it that much, to tell you the truth, even now. -- Bobby Fischer (on the Worldwide Church of God)
I can remember times coming home from a chess club at four in the morning when I was half asleep and half dead and forcing myself to pray an hour and study (the Bible) an hour. You know, I was half out of my head-stoned almost. -- Bobby Fischer
Church members shouldn't let themselves be confused. They begin not trusting in their own judgment, and then they're finished. That's a terrible, terrible thing. First, they get conducted in with a nice sweet program, no money, everything free, free, free. And then they get sucked in, and suddenly a few lies get mixed in. They are told that their human nature is wicked and these nice people who gave them all these things wouldn't be lying to them, would they? And then I think once you start distrusting your own mind you're finished. From there you just get more and more confused. Once you think that your own mind is not your friend any more-your own conscience and your own mind is not your friend-then I think you are on your way to insanity. You have been stripped bare. All your defenses are gone. -- Bobby Fischer
Our mind is all we've got. Not that it won't lead us astray sometimes, but we still have to analyze things out within ourselves. -- Bobby Fischer
They're all weak, all women. They're stupid compared to men. They shouldn't play chess, you know. They're like beginners.
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kulan
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#24 Skrivet: 22 Mar 2005 23:53
Byrne-Fischer (New York,1964) 1 d4 Sf6 2.c4 g6 3.g3 c6 4.Lg2 d5 5.cxd cxd 6. Sc3 Lg7 7. e3 0-0 8.Sge2 Sc6 9. 0-0 b6 10.b3 La6 11.La3 Tfc8 12.Dd2 e5 13.dxe Sxe5 14.Tf-d1 Sd3 15.Dc2 Sxf2!! 16.Kxf2 Sg4 17.Kg1 Sxe3 18. Dd2 Sxg2!! Sxd1 19. Txd1 19.Kxg2 d4! 20.Sxd4 Lb7 21.Kf1 Dd7! uppgivet.
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zohar
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#25 Skrivet: 23 Mar 2005 06:28
Av citaten ovan kan man ju inte annat än känna att bilden av Fischer som nästan tecknad blir bekräftad; en sjukligt självgod, paranoid och motsägelsefull mansgris, som tror han är en läcker playboy.
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emman
Medlem
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#26 Skrivet: 23 Mar 2005 08:26
Godmorgon, nu är det vår, yiiipiii! Zohar, har du "grund" för dom där påståendena, jag menar har Fischer fått dom diagnoserna du säger av nån läkare, lr? Jag tror fortfarande det bara är för att provocera fr Fischers sida, o det är väl tillåtet?
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lubbeluring
Medlem
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#27 Skrivet: 23 Mar 2005 10:57
Brukar inte Amerikanarna säga:
- There is something Fischer around here!
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kulan
Medlem
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#28 Skrivet: 23 Mar 2005 18:32
Amerikanska mästerkapet -Pasadena 1968 -Vit Zebb - svart Bobby Fischer. Vi tänker oss nu drygt 30 år tillbaka i tiden.Stämningen är minst sagt ansträngd. Fischer bakom mörka glasögon, Zebb med nyvaxade mustacher.Ingen säger ett knysst det är absolut tyst i lokalen. Zebb öppnar 1. e4 Fischer svarar e5 2. Lc4 a6 3 Df3 a5 Df7!! Matt Jublet som utbryter saknar gränser alla stormar scenen allt är ett enda kaos!!
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emman
Medlem
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#29 Skrivet: 23 Mar 2005 18:35
Ha, ha, vilka vilda fantasier, som hämtat från Vild Västern, med uncle Zebb
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zohar
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#30 Skrivet: 24 Mar 2005 05:55
Emman (25), visst har vi belägg för tramsiga yta han visat upp under 40 års tid, den mediabild han velat kabla ut. Det är lätt att skylla omvärlden för bilden av honom, men faktum är att han genom alla år på egen hand gjort sig ovän med de flesta. Hans rasism på 80-talet retade upp stora delar av schackvärlden. Hans nedlåtande kvinnosyn likaså. Det är på så sätt naturligtvis synd om mannen, som tydligen fortfarande tror han är en salig guru och attraktiv playboy. Läs en artikel om honom av en känd schackspelare här:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~timkr/chess/fischer.htm
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